Reading up on grokbot
5 deep · digging since aug 15
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There’s a world of difference between user-authorized agents (Muse, Instinct, Grokbot, etc.) and true unauthorized/rogue agents that could constitute cyberattacks. Most of the activity described in the Axios story appears to be the former: customers sharing credentials with agents so they can take actions on their behalf. This may violate bank terms requiring humans to log in themselves, but these are in no way cyberattacks. The direction banks should go is to support user-directed agents. For example, Amex is an authorized connection in Muse, making it easy for users to grant, limit, and revoke access. Read-only permission levels are a sensible interim step. Several banks already support or are moving toward them. Full write access (with user credentials) is a different risk category and should be approached carefully. Frightening the public by blurring the line between user-authorized agentic behavior and cyberattacks is irresponsible.
@DavidSacks
I just read what Zuck wrote about Muse connectors. A few things I think this means: 1. We’re witnessing the agentification of consumer apps. 2. Zuck believes Muse reaching 100M+ users feels entirely possible. 3. Whoever you connect to becomes your new landlord, so pick carefully. 4. Connectors become the new app listings (valuable real estate). 5. Being early could be as valuable as being early to the App Store in 2009. 6. Meta sees what people want, which providers convert, and what users will pay. That gives it the power to rank connectors, charge for distribution, and launch competing services. 7. The opportunity map includes agent native APIs, connector agencies, SEO for agents, identity and reliability infrastructure, and vertical connector marketplaces. 8. We’re moving from humans choosing apps to agents choosing businesses. 9. Every business will need an agent strategy, just like every business needed a mobile strategy. 10. Kinda crazy to say but a 3 person API company could reach 10M+ users through one great connector. 11. Connectors could create an entirely new second-order economy. The biggest opportunity may be helping businesses distribute, price, and optimize their services for agents. 12. Your API becomes more important than your app. Weird to think about but true. 13. Zuck wants Muse to own the moment between wanting something and getting it. He is coming for the app economy. Will he win? Right now it's Instinct vs Muse vs Grokbot. TBD.
@gregisenberg
Cursor Designer, Ryo Lu: "Right now I'm running 10-20 GrokBot agents that automate 90% of my routine I have a Chief of staff agent. He knows about all my other bots and manages everything" In a 20-minute podcast, a Cursor Designer explained how to build a team of GrokBot agents that will work for you 24/7 Worth more than a $500 course on agentic engineering Watch today, then read how to build a Grok agents team from scratch in article below
@maestrooth
The question I get most right now is "what should I turn into an AI agent?" Here is the 5 part test I use (works for Claude/Codex/Grokbot etc): 1. It has a repeated trigger, so the same kind of task keeps happening over and over. 2. The inputs are stable, so the information comes in a predictable shape every time. 3. The tools are clear, so there is a defined set of things it can actually go do. 4. There is a measurable finish line, so you can tell when it is done and whether it worked. 5. There is judgment in the middle, so each run is a little different and needs a real decision made in the moment. The first 4 are really just asking "can this be automated at all?" The 5th is the one that matters, because judgment in the middle is what makes it an agent instead of a simple automation. Once you see it this way, you start spotting agent work pretty much everywhere.
@gregisenberg
Hey @steipete you know I’m the ultimate clawboi - if you want my true competitive analysis openclaw ++ vibes / personality + local device (but tbh other than being cute doesn’t matter w cloud APIs, but we love a Mac mini moment) + hackable + multiplayer use (good in a group chat for slack) + crons - connector / MCP / gog constant death loop and management - maintenance while traveling grokbot @laurenleeplace ++ connector experience + consumer friendliness (AI pilled my very not ai native friend) + bot to bot hand offs - no multiplayer - vibes - opaque - not hackable eve @shardara @cramforce ++ enterprise connectors + easy to collaborate on building the bot + simple framework for config + evals, monitoring etc + I love chatSDK + tool control / approval UI is great - not consumer friendly - not really self service for non eng - vibes but that’s kind of a me problem codex @ajambrosino ++ just the best ++ code code code ++ computer / browser use + vibes are fine - actually hate the connector experience - no multiplayer - no little computer in the cloud hermes - vibes off just can’t do it
@clairevo